Conspiracy theories (£ žIt is all about $)

Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 18:56

The game isn't dying ... there are several players who would love to see the game fail after they were perma-banned, and while they have managed to cause some disruptions, the game persists. If it were going to die it would have done so by now. The fact is, despite the recent short-comings, it is still a solid and fun game that people love to play. ♥

lies

^ Even immortals know this game will outlast them ♥

Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 19:40

^ Even immortals know this game will outlast them ♥

Its power outstands our Immortality.

Γραμμένο από Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:21

I think maybe a crowd funding project to just hire someone who is decent at programming to finish us the map editor and fix other problems, I'm assuming Amok has tried to reuse code from SL so its probably a mess but we need that map editor.. that is the core of these problems.

The core is the lack of compatibility with Chrome and absent devs. I bet you more than half the people cracking jokes and complaining about map editor have never used it in their life.

The nail in the coffin for me was lack of Chrome support. Kinda killed the whole game for me

Γραμμένο από Zaros, 26.12.2016 at 22:28

The nail in the coffin for me was lack of Chrome support. Kinda killed the whole game for me

The game just needs to be updated. You can switch to Chromium which is faster but the same as Google Chrome anyways.

Γραμμένο από Darth., 26.12.2016 at 22:45

Γραμμένο από Zaros, 26.12.2016 at 22:28

The nail in the coffin for me was lack of Chrome support. Kinda killed the whole game for me

The game just needs to be updated. You can switch to Chromium which is faster but the same as Google Chrome anyways.

Chromium is a Web hijacker lol.

No one wants to see aw dead but without having a good programmer support who has experience on html5 gaming none is willing to spend 70k for nothing...

Γραμμένο από Sun Tsu, 26.12.2016 at 18:46

Any proposal can be made in writing to ivan@afterwind.com; for what its worth a crowd funding project as nice as it sounds I fail to see how the dynamics would work - and sounds very complicates not to mention expensive, with the core demographic being male 15-24 the idea of generating in excess of$70k of capital, is highly unlikely in a community the size of 1000 people.

Those that claim $70k is overvalued should consider the business model runs in solid profit and a return within 3 years is highly likely.

The game needs some form of outside capital and developers with time and a marketing team structure.

Ok this is really helpful now, i need more information like this
"... not to mention expensive, with the core demographic being male 15-24 the idea of generating in excess of$70k of capital .." this worries me too, if i couldn't get the help i need from our community here, then I'm planning to get investors, small game companies, private investors. people that are interested in the idea etc...
70K is sure expensive but as you said this game has the potential to earn back more than its worth at the moment with good leadership and planning.

| thanks Sun Tzu
<3

Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 18:56

The game isn't dying ... there are several players who would love to see the game fail after they were perma-banned, and while they have managed to cause some disruptions, the game persists. If it were going to die it would have done so by now. The fact is, despite the recent short-comings, it is still a solid and fun game that people love to play. ♥

This game will never fall. but don't you agree that it is moving downwards somehow?!
This game can see better days again, the potential is there, Ivan and Amok created a masterpiece , timeless in its nature, people can enjoy it 20-30 year from now!

I think its unfair that people who want to join the game now, cant even stay for long to feel the same about it as we do, they get sick of the conditions and leave before they become part of the family like most of us did back in the years we played at war. they see many problems and leave forever with a bad memory in their mind.

if everything was working fine, our family could get bigger everyday. i have 0 doubts about that.

and about ->"there are several players who would love to see the game fail after they were perma-banned" this people are non of our concern now

Γραμμένο από Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:21

Γραμμένο από Sun Tsu, 26.12.2016 at 18:46

Any proposal can be made in writing to ivan@afterwind.com; for what its worth a crowd funding project as nice as it sounds I fail to see how the dynamics would work - and sounds very complicates not to mention expensive, with the core demographic being male 15-24 the idea of generating in excess of$70k of capital, is highly unlikely in a community the size of 1000 people.

Those that claim $70k is overvalued should consider the business model runs in solid profit and a return within 3 years is highly likely.

The game needs some form of outside capital and developers with time and a marketing team structure.

I think maybe a crowd funding project to just hire someone who is decent at programming to finish us the map editor and fix other problems, I'm assuming Amok has tried to reuse code from SL so its probably a mess but we need that map editor.. that is the core of these problems.

We figure something out. trying to get into Ivan and talk to him about this issue, I'm even willing to fly to their location to negotiate it all in person.

there are lots of options. but nothing can be done without our admins cooperation

Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 19:40

^ Even immortals know this game will outlast them ♥

We have such a positive team, we cant die even if we wanted to.
Thankfully our Moderators and SunTzu are fine

Ps.A green potato would be more active admin than Ivan & Amok, and we were in good hands. xD

Γραμμένο από Darth., 26.12.2016 at 20:32

Γραμμένο από Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:21

I think maybe a crowd funding project to just hire someone who is decent at programming to finish us the map editor and fix other problems, I'm assuming Amok has tried to reuse code from SL so its probably a mess but we need that map editor.. that is the core of these problems.

The core is the lack of compatibility with Chrome and absent devs. I bet you more than half the people cracking jokes and complaining about map editor have never used it in their life.

Cant argue with your point, people wh used the Map editor were the ones who made this game so much more fun for the rest of us <3
Lots of respect for them, and i want them all back again.

this chrome failure paralyzed us all

Γραμμένο από Zaros, 26.12.2016 at 22:28

The nail in the coffin for me was lack of Chrome support. Kinda killed the whole game for me

IT did so to all of us , i found refugee using safari at the moment xD Hang in there bro, we want you by our side.

Γραμμένο από Guest, 26.12.2016 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Darth., 26.12.2016 at 20:32

Γραμμένο από Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:21

I think maybe a crowd funding project to just hire someone who is decent at programming to finish us the map editor and fix other problems, I'm assuming Amok has tried to reuse code from SL so its probably a mess but we need that map editor.. that is the core of these problems.

The core is the lack of compatibility with Chrome and absent devs. I bet you more than the people cracking jokes and complaining about map editor have never used it in their life.

the map editor was the start, a lot of people leave because there's nothing new and fun to play, I originally only brought premium for the map editor but yes you are right.. the death of chrome and just the load of mother fucking bugs... is killing the game even more now

Lets not lose calm bro ^_^
I never got bothered by the bugs thou. Bugs are not the Big problem. they can get fixed.

the question is how we want to fix Ivan & Amok absence !

Plan C is hacking the game and make a similar one for our own xD both cheaper and easier to do than buying it (Last Resort)

Γραμμένο από Helly, 27.12.2016 at 00:50

Γραμμένο από Darth., 26.12.2016 at 22:45

Γραμμένο από Zaros, 26.12.2016 at 22:28

The nail in the coffin for me was lack of Chrome support. Kinda killed the whole game for me

The game just needs to be updated. You can switch to Chromium which is faster but the same as Google Chrome anyways.

Chromium is a Web hijacker lol.

I didn't get what you mean, Plz do enlighten me ^_^
never used chromium

Γραμμένο από klevis, 27.12.2016 at 02:46

No one wants to see aw dead but without having a good programmer support who has experience on html5 gaming none is willing to spend 70k for nothing...

Yes spending 70K on something without planning it thru is absolutely stupid.

there are lots of planning to do before we get to the paying part. we don't want to gamble our money on something and make it worst than it is. if i realize what I'm doing gonna harm the game more then i will absolutely stop doing it. I'm thinking of something that can fixes our problems the least difficult possible way

Γραμμένο από Sun Tsu, 26.12.2016 at 18:46

Any

Anyway to see who answered what on the poll ?!

Γραμμένο από Cheesus_Crust, 27.12.2016 at 04:58

Γραμμένο από klevis, 27.12.2016 at 02:46

No one wants to see aw dead but without having a good programmer support who has experience on html5 gaming none is willing to spend 70k for nothing...

Yes spending 70K on something without planning it thru is absolutely stupid.

there are lots of planning to do before we get to the paying part. we don't want to gamble our money on something and make it worst than it is. if i realize what I'm doing gonna harm the game more then i will absolutely stop doing it. I'm thinking of something that can fixes our problems the least difficult possible way

the perfect guy to run a multiplayer online game should be a programmer fixing bugs himself making new payment packs keep the game active and updated every week can be a good investment cause this is a game running already and 70k are not that much for someone who has free time at home doing programming .if i was 1 i would buy it without thinking twice. but most of web dev find jobs this days and 1 of them is safari he would be the perfect guy to run this game with another supporting him with payment part ,to bad he has a good job.thats why u need a permanent programmer not someone who can just fix the editor part.

Maybe I'll buy the game --and just begin permamuting the anti-semites.

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Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 18:56

The game isn't dying ... there are several players who would love to see the game fail after they were perma-banned, and while they have managed to cause some disruptions, the game persists. If it were going to die it would have done so by now. The fact is, despite the recent short-comings, it is still a solid and fun game that people love to play. ♥

Players in lobby in the most visited times (8-10PM CET)-27. In 2014 in the same period of day, around 200 players were in Lobby. I e koy this game even now, so i must agree with you, but it is stressing that we need to wait around 30mins to fill 8-11 players game. I like that 2-3 times a week Sun makes sp drop world, sadly 20players world cannot fill any other way
I think that this game just needs admins to take care of it, because it will die if they continue like this. Also, if Amok doesnt know to program on html5, they should get some professional programmer to finnish up mapeditor, SL editor is laggy, map saving is very long. For the good of admins too, they must finnish mapeditor because they can be marked as scammers and this game and its site could be taken down...

For lazy people, in short. Game is enjoyable yet, player base is smaller and smaller, amok and ivan must take care of the game and finnish mapeditor.

Γραμμένο από Sun Tsu, 26.12.2016 at 18:46

Any proposal can be made in writing to ivan@afterwind.com; for what its worth a crowd funding project as nice as it sounds I fail to see how the dynamics would work - and sounds very complicates not to mention expensive, with the core demographic being male 15-24 the idea of generating in excess of$70k of capital, is highly unlikely in a community the size of 1000 people.

Those that claim $70k is overvalued should consider the business model runs in solid profit and a return within 3 years is highly likely.

The game needs some form of outside capital and developers with time and a marketing team structure.

There's people who want to help the game but aren't given the chance to.

Here is what to do. go to one of those big video game conventions. with hat in hand. all the people that work on the big games, had to have started somewhere with a dream. there is a lot of money floating around out there. all it would take is one investor with the cash to help take this game to the next level. because there is another level for it to go too.

I'd do anything I can to help this game, just don't go down just yet because I only started to play this game and enjoyed doing it during break time.

Γραμμένο από Guest, 27.12.2016 at 08:43

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x)) fixed

Γραμμένο από klevis, 27.12.2016 at 05:33

Γραμμένο από Cheesus_Crust, 27.12.2016 at 04:58

Γραμμένο από klevis, 27.12.2016 at 02:46

No one wants to see aw dead but without having a good programmer support who has experience on html5 gaming none is willing to spend 70k for nothing...

Yes spending 70K on something without planning it thru is absolutely stupid.

there are lots of planning to do before we get to the paying part. we don't want to gamble our money on something and make it worst than it is. if i realize what I'm doing gonna harm the game more then i will absolutely stop doing it. I'm thinking of something that can fixes our problems the least difficult possible way

the perfect guy to run a multiplayer online game should be a programmer fixing bugs himself making new payment packs keep the game active and updated every week can be a good investment cause this is a game running already and 70k are not that much for someone who has free time at home doing programming .if i was 1 i would buy it without thinking twice. but most of web dev find jobs this days and 1 of them is safari he would be the perfect guy to run this game with another supporting him with payment part ,to bad he has a good job.thats why u need a permanent programmer not someone who can just fix the editor part.

That crossed my mind too, there is no doubt that we need a permanent programmer or maybe a team of them. someone good and active..

unreasonably expensive (the only reason we bought premium cause we cared and wanted to support) but i don't see a reason why should the newbies do that , i agree with you. the fact that it is so expensive is why 60% of players on atwar never bought premium.
i got to figure out how much money does it cost to maintain the game, how much it does make each month or per year. then the prices can get adjusted / balanced. HOPEFULLY

the other thing is programmers won't work for free. and are hard to trust xD i don't want to make this game worst than it is. what I'm paranoid about.
i got some influence in a gaming company but without ivan responding to me i cant take things to the next level.

Γραμμένο από Oleg, 27.12.2016 at 08:58

Γραμμένο από brianwl, 26.12.2016 at 18:56

The game isn't dying ... there are several players who would love to see the game fail after they were perma-banned, and while they have managed to cause some disruptions, the game persists. If it were going to die it would have done so by now. The fact is, despite the recent short-comings, it is still a solid and fun game that people love to play. ♥

Players in lobby in the most visited times (8-10PM CET)-27. In 2014 in the same period of day, around 200 players were in Lobby. I e koy this game even now, so i must agree with you, but it is stressing that we need to wait around 30mins to fill 8-11 players game. I like that 2-3 times a week Sun makes sp drop world, sadly 20players world cannot fill any other way
I think that this game just needs admins to take care of it, because it will die if they continue like this. Also, if Amok doesnt know to program on html5, they should get some professional programmer to finnish up mapeditor, SL editor is laggy, map saving is very long. For the good of admins too, they must finnish mapeditor because they can be marked as scammers and this game and its site could be taken down...

For lazy people, in short. Game is enjoyable yet, player base is smaller and smaller, amok and ivan must take care of the game and finnish mapeditor.

True

Ps. maybe thats why xD ... "...maybe Amok doesnt know how to program on html5..."

Γραμμένο από clovis1122, 27.12.2016 at 10:04

Why how what where, someone like you who spent thousands of hours here can be so indifference about this ?!