Testing and results of new nerfed Blitzkrieg

dat butthurt when turning against GW HAHAHAHA

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Feel free to keep bringing up that straw man "it was all because of blitz ukr" argument. Blitz ukr was only a single example that highlighted how flawed blitz was. But I suppose it's easier to invent easily refutable arguments for those who disagree with you than to accept the legitimate ones made in favor a nerf.

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:27

Feel free to keep bringing up that straw man "it was all because of blitz ukr" argument. Blitz ukr was only a single example that highlighted how flawed blitz was. But I suppose it's easier to invent easily refutable arguments for those who disagree with you than to accept the legitimate ones made in favor a nerf.

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Γραμμένο από Mr_Own_U, 25.04.2015 at 19:26

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Sorry but blitz is yours 2nd most used strategy after SM lol

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

World is not moving around 10 people who plays turkey PD.
I know the background of all, cause u got influence there on Ivan, said like majority of players want nerfing blitz. That majority are people who cried on 22 threas for nerfing blitz

Lets talk objectively, if blitz should be nerfed, than PD has to go on fucking heavy nerf cause now there is not a single strategy that can be compared with strenght of PD.
Blitz is now nerfed, nerf PD too...or go delete other strategies, cause there is no point of having 15 useless strats when PD is daddy anywhere.
France, UK, Ger, Spa, Turk, even Ukraine are played with PD in most of situations.
I dont have anything against you, u know I like u, but this thing just sucks so hard,

Game is losing sense when you this easily change anything. Touching every strat so PD continues to be so OP.
I said in last thread, you are not aware how much will it affect on games. Maybe not 1st days or weeks, but you will regret it once when you see it all start to be pointless.

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

The fact that we asked so many times for another example that is not Blitz ukraine, but never got answer proves a lot....

Γραμμένο από Earthbound, 25.04.2015 at 21:37

Γραμμένο από Mr_Own_U, 25.04.2015 at 19:26

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truee, thats me right now. Goodbye 5k/3k blitz

gahhhhhh you leared that shit from our 3k/5k duel.

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 20:46

Γραμμένο από Mr_Own_U, 25.04.2015 at 19:26

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Sorry but blitz is yours 2nd most used strategy after SM lol

It is, but am I crying at all? I don't care about it unlike you and others xa

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

How is he wrong? - It should be obvious.

What is your another excuse except that? - Blitz Italy & Spain. The general strength of blitz regardless of country. Huge expansion capabilities due to range and defensive strength with a gen stack. With powerful blitz auto-militia that you don't even have to buy by simply jewing your opponent.


Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine? - Everywhere that it is viable. (Spain, Italy, Poland, 3k, 5k games etc…)
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol - Is this supposed to be a funny joke?

World is not moving around 10 people who plays turkey PD. - Nobody said it was. Stop making up arguments.

I know the background of all, cause u got influence there on Ivan, said like majority of players want nerfing blitz. That majority are people who cried on 22 threas for nerfing blitz - Wrong, you know nothing about us and that is not how the update happened. Lao requested that Ivan look at his thread (Anyone is allowed to PM Ivan) and Ivan made the decision by reading through the discussion to implement the changes he did. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. So maybe stop pretending you know things you don't?

Lets talk objectively, if blitz should be nerfed, than PD has to go on fucking heavy nerf cause now there is not a single strategy that can be compared with strenght of PD.
Blitz is now nerfed, nerf PD too...or go delete other strategies, cause there is no point of having 15 useless strats when PD is daddy anywhere. France, UK, Ger, Spa, Turk, even Ukraine are played with PD in most of situations. - That's because PD is versatile not because it's overpowered in all places. Regardless we aren't here to have a PD discussion you are free to make another thread for it.

I dont have anything against you, u know I like u, but this thing just sucks so hard, - Same but a minor nerf to blitz (not even a large nerf) is not the end of the world. It's literally a tweak to the strategy shortly after they underwent major changes. We literally made these changes to the strats KNOWING that they might need tweaking later. (Which they did). The fact that you are all blowing up and getting sensational over a small weak (that to me is clearly better for gameplay) is absurd to me.

Game is losing sense when you this easily change anything. Touching every strat so PD continues to be so OP. - Well seeing as the only "touching" we did of the other strats were buffs this argument doesn't hold much water.

I said in last thread, you are not aware how much will it affect on games. Maybe not 1st days or weeks, but you will regret it once when you see it all start to be pointless. - You see pretty confident. I can't see into the future but I don't think this is a mistake now. That's what matters.

Let blitz haters cry more. As jratore said, the more you cry the less you piss

I remember those times when no one played blitz because it wasn't even viable... now a small nerf and people start crying....
I feel sorry for Ivan and Amok having to deal with this shit. They try to make the game as good as possible. Not everyone can be satisfied, but they're trying their hardest. If someone wants to post a reaction to show their opinion they should do it with regards to the topic (don't bring in PD, make another topic for it.... oh wait you don't want PD nerfed either) and it should never look like an attack towards someone else. Just state your opinion and let Ivan and Amok figure out what to do with it... If blitz proves to be too weak then I have no doubt it will be made stronger again.

I personally think blitz will still be a viable strategy, though the game play would be changed slightly. That is for the people that play blitz to figure out again and updates like these keep the game interesting.

Also, don't ever, in any situation, come with a statement like "that's what those few people said". Start a poll, see who really thinks what and the results will speak for themselves.

But that's all I'll say about this, do with it what you want.

Γραμμένο από Dbacks, 26.04.2015 at 00:49

I remember those times when no one played blitz because it wasn't even viable... now a small nerf and people start crying....
I feel sorry for Ivan and Amok having to deal with this shit. They try to make the game as good as possible. Not everyone can be satisfied, but they're trying their hardest. If someone wants to post a reaction to show their opinion they should do it with regards to the topic (don't bring in PD, make another topic for it.... oh wait you don't want PD nerfed either) and it should never look like an attack towards someone else. Just state your opinion and let Ivan and Amok figure out what to do with it... If blitz proves to be too weak then I have no doubt it will be made stronger again.

I personally think blitz will still be a viable strategy, though the game play would be changed slightly. That is for the people that play blitz to figure out again and updates like these keep the game interesting.

Also, don't ever, in any situation, come with a statement like "that's what those few people said". Start a poll, see who really thinks what and the results will speak for themselves.

But that's all I'll say about this, do with it what you want.

well put

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:27

Feel free to keep bringing up that straw man "it was all because of blitz ukr" argument. Blitz ukr was only a single example that highlighted how flawed blitz was. But I suppose it's easier to invent easily refutable arguments for those who disagree with you than to accept the legitimate ones made in favor a nerf.

you know, blitz was a 'noob' strategy, before ukr, noone in forum cared about it, now you nerf it because you can't beat it in the hands of a few players, if you seriously think this wasn't about ukr you should look for the cry threads aftes someone found blitz ukr. if blitz is was so op i wonder why noone else cried for that a year before.

ALL CAUSE LAOCHRA CRIED 3 MONTHS TO X MOD.

Γραμμένο από clovis1122, 25.04.2015 at 22:09

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

The fact that we asked so many times for another example that is not Blitz ukraine, but never got answer proves a lot....

agreed, you guys can't bring ANY OTHER OP EU+ COUNTRY except ukraine, and now you guys tell that blitz was not op as ukraine, but overall.

Γραμμένο από Mr_Own_U, 25.04.2015 at 23:30

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 20:46

Γραμμένο από Mr_Own_U, 25.04.2015 at 19:26

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Sorry but blitz is yours 2nd most used strategy after SM lol

It is, but am I crying at all? I don't care about it unlike you and others xa

I care about contradictions in this game. Everything that can resist to PD, even with one country, has to go immideatly on nerf.
Who cried? People who persuade Ivan for nerf, not me.

I am just trying to show how bs this is

Bla

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

World is not moving around 10 people who plays turkey PD.
I know the background of all, cause u got influence there on Ivan, said like majority of players want nerfing blitz. That majority are people who cried on 22 threas for nerfing blitz

Lets talk objectively, if blitz should be nerfed, than PD has to go on fucking heavy nerf cause now there is not a single strategy that can be compared with strenght of PD.
Blitz is now nerfed, nerf PD too...or go delete other strategies, cause there is no point of having 15 useless strats when PD is daddy anywhere.
France, UK, Ger, Spa, Turk, even Ukraine are played with PD in most of situations.
I dont have anything against you, u know I like u, but this thing just sucks so hard,

Game is losing sense when you this easily change anything. Touching every strat so PD continues to be so OP.
I said in last thread, you are not aware how much will it affect on games. Maybe not 1st days or weeks, but you will regret it once when you see it all start to be pointless.

You guys werent talking like this before blitz got boosted. But right AFTER you got addicted to boosted blitz and got ''noticed' (shall we call it this) by the community you get mad because you feel like you are fucked now. But the only reason to boost blitz was because it wasn't played that much, it wasn't noob at all, it was perfectly capeable to play in many situations look at desu/goblin at the time. They were raping almost anyone with their blitz.

But on the other hand I do agree on some part. Because I remember it was laochra who wanted to boost blitz including all the other strats who werent played that much by the community. I think mods/admins should listen to more of us than only (illyria, no offense) but hey, I assume you guys werent messaging ivan nor amok about it before the boosts/nerfs.

Btw, why dont you see zone or ferlucci or alot of other blitz players crying here? because they were capeable to play blitz before the boost too, and most off all they dont have their hopes on 1 strategy particually, they play plenty of other ones. I suggest you guys try this too. Because lets be honest, the only reason you guys are mad about the blitz nerf is because you guys feel like you are ruined now.

The one positive change that will come out of all this, at least, is that Blitz is no longer going to be the favorite strategy for RP'ers. At least in Europe, that is.

Γραμμένο από clovis1122, 25.04.2015 at 22:09

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

The fact that we asked so many times for another example that is not Blitz ukraine, but never got answer proves a lot....

Spain. Kamikaza style. You could use it to send 30 units on germany or turkey, being able to reach everything with more then 11 units from bulgaria over poland reaching even denmark with 18 units.
If we are talking specificly about blitz ukraine, it was just way to easy to play with it. I've played it a lot of times lately, before nerf, and i 'exploited' it, and trust me when i say it, there was no way you could beat blitz ukraine unless he made some huge mistake. The thing that was also op was blitz ukr in 3v3 games (cws). If you were just a little bit skilled player, you could send 20-30 units to help west without risking to lose kiev, cuzz.. you know.. big range.. at least 20-30 militias there with also infs for which you had no need to use air transports to reach kiev. And now you caaannnt dooo thaaaattt ^^ Now you cant stack kiev with blitz militias and excpect to survive.
And question to soldier and any other blitz player, pls tell me on which country except ukraine does this nerf hurts you? On blitz italy when you rush germany? On spain rushing balkans and germany countries? Where? pls tell me? or its only on your blitz turkey rush with militias which you where the only one i saw using it. 90 militias rush hah.. now even if you take it.. enemy gonna take it back without any problem

Γραμμένο από Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 05:34

Γραμμένο από Croat, 25.04.2015 at 21:15

Γραμμένο από Acquiesce, 25.04.2015 at 19:52

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 25.04.2015 at 19:51

The least we can do is be honest as to why blitz was nerfed in the first place.
It was solely because blitz ukraine.
Period.

Well frankly you are wrong.
Period!

How is he wrong?
What is your another excuse except that? Where is that blitz op if we dont include Ukraine?
Malta vs Cyprus duel probably? lol

World is not moving around 10 people who plays turkey PD.
I know the background of all, cause u got influence there on Ivan, said like majority of players want nerfing blitz. That majority are people who cried on 22 threas for nerfing blitz

Lets talk objectively, if blitz should be nerfed, than PD has to go on fucking heavy nerf cause now there is not a single strategy that can be compared with strenght of PD.
Blitz is now nerfed, nerf PD too...or go delete other strategies, cause there is no point of having 15 useless strats when PD is daddy anywhere.
France, UK, Ger, Spa, Turk, even Ukraine are played with PD in most of situations.
I dont have anything against you, u know I like u, but this thing just sucks so hard,

Game is losing sense when you this easily change anything. Touching every strat so PD continues to be so OP.
I said in last thread, you are not aware how much will it affect on games. Maybe not 1st days or weeks, but you will regret it once when you see it all start to be pointless.

You guys werent talking like this before blitz got boosted. But right AFTER you got addicted to boosted blitz and got ''noticed' (shall we call it this) by the community you get mad because you feel like you are fucked now. But the only reason to boost blitz was because it wasn't played that much, it wasn't noob at all, it was perfectly capeable to play in many situations look at desu/goblin at the time. They were raping almost anyone with their blitz.

But on the other hand I do agree on some part. Because I remember it was laochra who wanted to boost blitz including all the other strats who werent played that much by the community. I think mods/admins should listen to more of us than only (illyria, no offense) but hey, I assume you guys werent messaging ivan nor amok about it before the boosts/nerfs.

Btw, why dont you see zone or ferlucci or alot of other blitz players crying here? because they were capeable to play blitz before the boost too, and most off all they dont have their hopes on 1 strategy particually, they play plenty of other ones. I suggest you guys try this too. Because lets be honest, the only reason you guys are mad about the blitz nerf is because you guys feel like you are ruined now.

Neither Fer, neither Zone saw this post.
Neither Fer, neither Zone are mostly blitz Ukr players...

Γραμμένο από Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 06:08

Nice decision

Γραμμένο από Croat, 26.04.2015 at 06:19

Γραμμένο από Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 06:08

Nice decision

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 26.04.2015 at 06:22

Γραμμένο από Croat, 26.04.2015 at 06:19

Γραμμένο από Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 06:08

Nice decision

Γραμμένο από Kromn, 26.04.2015 at 06:30

Γραμμένο από W4R_MaChINE, 26.04.2015 at 06:22

Γραμμένο από Croat, 26.04.2015 at 06:19

Γραμμένο από Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 06:08

Nice decision

-2 for infs still there.

I dont know is this tragic or comic... or tragi-comic