04.08.2016 - 12:23
'Boosted animal' xaxa as opposed to a unboosted animal?
Please just shut up. You're embarrassing yourself for the whole of AW to see. Forget all those people who joined in 2012 and 2013 complaining about CE, there are gonna be memes and trolls about you.
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04.08.2016 - 12:25
Xir0w you say no one debunks your points, yet that is all anyone ever did in this tread, you refuse to see that because you are stuck in some idea that only you can be right, when there are professionals in government, politics, economics and even in the military, in the USA and the Rest of the world that have showed the USA to not be the Glory ridden Nation it professes itself to be. You refuse in totality to realize this, you never argue the points that object your previous lackluster illusions of the USA and you brush aside information and Hard proof like it doesn't exist, you are a Indoctrinated Individual at this point and tying to enlighten someone like you who has denial syndrome, is up to the brim with confirmation bias and is incapable of enough critical thinking and observation to understand the Truth regarding the United States is now seemingly not worth the effort. Either That or you are a Daft Illiterate that is trolling at this point and need to give up and Cut the Crap already. (excuse my french)
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04.08.2016 - 13:12
^This is a good post 1. India and South Africa are not empires. They haven't been empires since they were rulers of their own region and not cucked by europe. India and South Africa are respectively tier 3 and 4 countries...I will expand on this 2. I will debunk this first sentence at the end. There are other sources of power than military. Let's disregard military for a second. Would you rather live in he country with the best healthcare and education in the world, or the economic and political capital of the world? I believe the miltary budget is calculated to exactly what it needs to be to keep our power in the world 3. Nationalism did not destroy your country, other countries did. Let me explain this in a national geographic scientific kind of way. All of history has been natural selection between the civilizations of man, and the one I live in is the sole survivor, like humans versus all other homoshits, and like homoshits versus all other animals. Europe for the last few hundred years had been the top. But the problem in Europe was not Nationalism, which is natural and actually required for strong empires to have. The problem for Europe was that within it there were too many strong empires with comparable power. Germans were the strongest for a while, then French, then British or whoever. At the end Britain was the strongest empire but it wasn't strong ENOUGH to completely overtake the other Europeans decisively to solidify itself as the only superpower. What ended up happening was tensions built between the great empires in euro and they fought(...so many times...). This is INEVITABLE when two+ civilizations comparable in power are both trying to expand their power: they conflict until someone wins it's human nature, and the nature of life itself. This happened in WW1 and WW2. It still wasn't settled who was the WINNER of europe and therefore mankind so they kept fighting. After they got BTFO.... USA and USSR are now the world players. THIS is the point they call: gg europe Now that we are past europe..... let's talk about Russia. At this point USA is CLEARLY stronger than Russia in almost every way except MILITARY (idc what the reason is maybe it is becaause of population whoc cares). Russia's military is strong enough to actually compete with USA, because they have a large amount of nuculer weppuns. For this reason Russia maintains a grip on the eastern hemisphere that is not quite strong enough for USA to just break with force. At this point in history, civilization and the rise of empires is past where a full on conventional war can advance a superpower's greatness, because they will just start the nuclear holocaust, literally suicide. Leaders in the United States, regardless of the reason (might hae been population), KNEW that they could bleed out the USSR of all its money by SUPERCHARGING our economy and lifestyle to something that they could never match. THIS is still nationalism and there was tension of war but it never actually led to a war that would just decimate both nations, and make them look like EUROPE. What ended up happening was the USSR COLLAPSING (we win) due to the strain of trying to keep up with USA, who was ahead of them but not yet able to just forcefully break their grip on that last little piece of power. So now we live in a world where USA is ON MOTHAFUCKIN TOP and no nation can start a conventional winner-takes-all war with us (even if they could win a war without nukes but they couldn't, ill get to this) because it would be nuclear holocaust AKA suicide. This is the point of no return, USA is the sole global empire... now lets continue... You say "If usa fights china russia will help and it will lose" If Russia and China declare war they lose, even without nukes. It's true that USA could not INVADE AND OCCUPY russ or especially china because even though they're ot on top they're very powerful countries with large populations. The thing is though, we would just immediately destroy their armies and even if we somehow didn't (we WOULD guaranteed) there is NO CONCEIVABLE WAY IN HELL they could ever actually reach our shores and invade US, so this establishes USA would NOT LOSE, let me tell you why we would win. USA can put the navy anywhere in 6 hours. The largest air force in the world is US air force, the second largest is contained within the US navy. The ratio of US to non-US military planes in the world is 1:1.1. Our technology is at least 30 years ahead of the next best, look up SR71 blackbird. China and Russia have nothing even comparable to the USA in actual firepower. Look up the number of aircraft carriers owned by US, China, and Russia. Number of soldiers is irrelevant in the face of the fact that the US navy and airforce would EVAPORATE the Chinese and Russian at the same time with no contest. After this it's just a matter of starving them out like what happened to USSR, but faster and probably more brutal. Yes NATO helps us but without them the winner is still clear. Don't try to win an argument on military you were smart to just avoid it. "Power isn't everything." Yes it is. These are the words of someone who lost their power long ago. China and Russia are like us, and we are like the Europeans before us, and they were like all the diverse empires of the world before that, it's our nature. The difference now is that there is ONE, and only one WINNER of the game of thrones and that is America. We don't hate China and Russia because of the way they actually are, we hate them because of Nationalism. Military might is only one of a few ways to have power, and it is only one of the many things that makes USA the most powerful empire now or ever. Let's talk about economy. Euros love to talk about the 19 trillion debt but as I have explained in another post, this debt is due to the United States being the center of the economic world. I said something like: If we send scrap metal and money to china and they send back iphones... basically what happened was we gave china green paper and they gave us iphones... which one would you rather have? Other countries take our money and increase our debt, and in return we get back the things they produce for us. This is literally USA buying things from other countries because it is so god damn rich we can pay for other countries' citizens to work in factories and farm shit for us so that we all live in cities and work at mcdonalds at worst. This is something called LIFESTYLE INFLATION that first world countries (including euro on a smaller scale) use (thanks to usa) to have all the cool shit they have and make their cities pretty and basically just live more privleged lives at the expense of others. Yes China is getting rich and their economy is accelerating yes yes.... but we literally GIVE them the money for it because it is #WORTH to give them money in exchange for being able to live more lavish lives. If you don't understand this... I will get to it Let's now talk about Europe's economy, which is supposedly so goo- wait whats that? The "unity" of the european "Union" is collapsing, perhaps beyond repair? Let's also remember that the Euro is a piece of fucking garbage and will default SOON. This was locked in as its fate ever since EU let greece default on their debts and never resolved it. China and Russia are stocking up on Euros, and when the Euro defaults they will cash in all that debt, and europe will NOT be able to pay for it, meaning they will basically be China and Russia's bitch, and will need someone to bail them out... You say USA is unsustainable but... blah blah black kettle "muh 19 trillion debt" is just a safety device used by people who don't understand the way money really flows through the world. If you want me to explain culture AGAIN I will but please just see my other posts about the rise of usa culture, the nature of immigration AND integration, and our culture being constantly shoved on everyone else in the form of american luxury products and entertainment, i could just copy paste it here if i cared to but i dont Finally is political power. I don't know much about political power but I know for a god damn fact that, as the most important player, USA basically runs the UN, I know that UN's army IS USA's army, I know that Americans have nukes which makes them basically unkillable and are currently playing around with ISIS and stealing from the entire middle east without consequence, it seems to me like were on top in this area but if someone wants to tell me different go ahead NOW at the end of this post, since you have at least acknowleged my previous posts, I would like to say that having the things listed above makes you the best country in the world, despite what your flaws may be. There are cons that come with these pros, but every country has pros and cons and I thought that I was making it clear that my argument was based on the fact that these pros outweigh them. BUT if you believe different, then we come to an impasse. As far as I'm concerned I've won this argument but it really comes down to a decision of what you believe makes a nation "best". If you REALLY believe that Euro's pros outweigh its cons, the biggest one being that they rely so much on each other and usa to support them that they can never fully stand tall again (They have lost the ability for full on nationalism and instead turn to globalism), then ok you win... from your perspective. But I believe that my perspective is just so obviously right... but i wont argue with you any further if that's the route you want to take to stalemate it. The thing is though... would you truly rather live in the 2nd tier continent, soon to become 3rd tier, or would you rather live in the top tier TRUE first world? Would you rather be a citizen of a country famous for healthcare and education or a country famous for wealth and power? It's like what machiavelli says, its better to be feared than loved even if being loved makes you nice and cozy it makes you weak, and in the end, throughout history, the weak get BTFO gg euro, asia, etc USA USA USA USA USA USA give up here pls Edit: theres probably not as many people backing me up because a lot of foreigners play this site, and even more use the forums, and theres no way theyre gonna admit it
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04.08.2016 - 13:13
you are boring you know.
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04.08.2016 - 13:24
Xir0w 1. No one cares for those petty nations anyway. 2. You are right, No military budget, the USA won't keep it's claws on everyone. 3. you are very correct, EU was disunited, because of Interest groups not caring about the People, but themselves. Plus war is fantastic for Business, at the expense of others of course. USA entered the World Wars because England was too weak and to big a pompous coward to accept defeat against Germany and called USA in. This Occurred TWICE, USA got involved and went to the top by taking advantage of the Collapse Ruins of other Nations, not really Impressive. The USSR had flawed leaders and the USA Won, you are right. But to make it seem that the USA became what it is by itself is Hogwash and you know it, The USA isn't what it used to be, not by a long shot and is due to fall in a few years to a decade. it may be a Superpower, but it can never compare to the Hard work that the EU did to be as strong as they once were, the USA piggy backed the remains of those empires, and Won in the end. I guess your point is, it doesn't matter how they did it, just that they are the top. They May be the strongest, but they are far from the greatest Nation, and you know it.
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04.08.2016 - 13:26
holdon i hit post accidentally, w8 for my actual argument
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04.08.2016 - 14:24
It's ready :L EURO BTFO THERE IS NO RETURN THIS TIME
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04.08.2016 - 14:30
Now that im done, YOU are one of many petty nations dont you see? 2. read the rest of my argument it debunks this already 3. I actually respect this one, and you're right that it's nothing more than luck that USA was able to take over, and that I get to live in it ...but im damn sure proud gg close europe
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04.08.2016 - 14:51
if im boring why did you reply just to say that? why are you still reading the thread?
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04.08.2016 - 15:22
nah, just telling you that you are boring.
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04.08.2016 - 15:50
Xir0w 2. How is that Debunked? without Money, USA control is non-existent
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04.08.2016 - 15:57
debunked because if usa maintains its power in all the other ways, our economic power will remain also because the other nations will not let us default. It's like when the us banks fail and our gov't bails them out even though it was their own damn fault. If USA goes down the whole world suffers and it's really just not worth it at this point. TOO BIG TO FAIL GG EUROPE BTFO
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04.08.2016 - 16:00
Nah, if use went down, world would be such a better place
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04.08.2016 - 16:03
USA collapse is not end of the world, If USA falls, maybe world-wide recession, but after that, other Nations recover and forgets about USA.
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04.08.2016 - 16:06
usa is useless, recession would come only if someone like china callapses, not usa.
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04.08.2016 - 16:13
True lol, US Dollar only afloat because of oil, after that dies, USA worth nothing, due to the crap-ton of debt they are in.
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04.08.2016 - 16:19
Nah, if use went down, world would be such a better place http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1470330653406.png USA collapse is not end of the world http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1470331504263.jpg usa is useless, recession would come only if someone like china callapses http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1470337013581.png True lol, US Dollar only afloat because of oil http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1470322063054.jpg Just fuckin false stay mad boys
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04.08.2016 - 16:30
Tfw u win an entire thread by yourself, or at the very least bring it to a CLEAR stalemate gg europe
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04.08.2016 - 16:43
You are boring with that gg europe...
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04.08.2016 - 16:58
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Just a good quote to bring up as ppl seem to be wasting their time with an ignorant smh
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04.08.2016 - 17:10
u cant beat my argument, and i even concede that if u think like a bitch the YES europe is the king of the bitch nations.... but instead you will just post some butthurt half assed reaching side comment that attempts to insult me when i already won EUROPE JUST STOP POSTING THIS IS AN AMERICAN OWNED THREAD NOW
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04.08.2016 - 17:27
Surprised something like that came from you <3
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04.08.2016 - 17:30
I bet xirxow is a wetback who just recently jumped the border and suddenly feels murican.
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04.08.2016 - 17:40
how does it feel to know your country is shaped like a limp dick and is not included in more than one sentence of any history book
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04.08.2016 - 17:47
Its atleast my country, you left yours behind when you made the jump, smd
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04.08.2016 - 18:00
Is croatia even a country? or is it a fucking city state i cant tell. EU is literally a shitty copy of having STATES form a country and it won't even work sad really....
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04.08.2016 - 18:02
I love wetbacks who get all murican at me, give me more, enterteain me peasant
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04.08.2016 - 18:08
gg lil buddy
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04.08.2016 - 18:11
I said entertain me, not bore me to death, ugh youre such a failure, i hope your mum and dad back in mexico are proud of you.
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04.08.2016 - 18:25
no one in world except serbs can insult croatia faggot.
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