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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

05.10.2016 - 11:26
Must have been some miscommunication really I just cited parts of rules that you would find relevant for your planning of moving from greece to africa after you took greece or something had no idea what you were talking about. Naval invasion seemed quite clear to me. Anyway if you don't read rules on your own no one to blame but yourself, will roll battle now.
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05.10.2016 - 12:09
Γραμμένο από Zephyrusu, 05.10.2016 at 11:19

Γραμμένο από Aetius, 05.10.2016 at 11:00

Naval movement =/= naval invasion, you intentioanlly cropped out the paragraph beneath naval movement explaining invasions. Now send strat so this game can continue without these long delays

I am going to ask mrarmy, if he doesn't reply in an hour I am going to assume balanced formation. You can't delay game out of butthurt.

I cropped out no paragraph for that is the only paragraph you sent me, retard. I asked you specifically for the conditions in the attack on Greece, sending me a paragraph about moving to friendly provinces makes no sense so I assumed it counted for all moves. In any case I'll send you the strat eventhough what you did is pure bullshit.

He sent you stuff for Naval Movement where you're the defender like deploying to defend Africa or Asia from a Naval Invasion by mistake. Meanwhile what you did is a Naval Invasion where you're the attacker.
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05.10.2016 - 12:18
Battle of Rome
Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus )+Decius Nipius ( Death1816) (Flanking)
(3 Evocati + 5 Veterans + 16 Legions)=35 strength
Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) +Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987)(Flanking)
(1 Evocati + 3 Veterans + 14 Legions) = 23 strength
Battle Roll: 12 (+12 from greater strength) +2 from bad omens=24
Result: Decisive Victory



Taking up a defensive position along the Tiber, Scipios smaller and less veteran army could only hope to hold back the Populare force and hold Rome while waiting for more reinforcements to arrive. Arriving from the north, roman cities one by one hailed the Populares as the new ruler until they reached Rome and saw the senatorial army waiting. Marius ordered Nipius with the evocati to lead a flanking attack around one of the bridges to the south. Scipio countered with the same and sent Caetronianus. There both sides fought for supremacy and the Legio Evocati XII Hispana gave its lives dearly for the republican cause but after Caetronianus himself was slain the rest of the army on the flank lost heart. Now, seeing the senate flank broken, Marius launched a all out assault on Scipio and crushed the army completely supported by Nipius

Marius gains a veteran legion, Legio I Italia
Marius promotes a veteran legion, Legio IX Fortuna, to Evocati

Populare Casualties
Slight, anything lost replaced by former loyal legionnaires

Senatorial Casualties
Total, all levies and veterans


The following people now have a choice to make, as they have been defeated and at this very moment the legions of the populares are entering the city seeking out their former enemies. You may either 1) kill yourself with honor (considered an honourable death) 2) surrender voluntarily to the populares in good faith 3)Attempt to escape to Africa with the fleet to continue the fight (50% you escape, 50% caught). If you don't reply in 12 hours going to assume you want to escape.

Publius Numertorius (JF) [Suicide]
Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) [Escaped]
Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) [Suicide]
Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987) [Died in battle]
Drusus Caelius (Safari) [Captured]
Junius Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Captured]
Sextus Varius (Meester) [Surrendered]

If you escape you will become part of this:
Exiled Senate -If Rome is taken the Senate becomes a "rebel", however senators do not lose half their equites. The senator with the most influence becomes the leader like a dictator. He may resign and appoint someone else, or the senate may nominate someone else and vote on it. He can't execute anyone but must always lead the main army.
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05.10.2016 - 12:28


Meanwhile Reaction of Populares;



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05.10.2016 - 12:34
At last, with Rome gone i am no longer opposed by a cucked bureaucracy
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05.10.2016 - 12:37
Γραμμένο από Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 12:34

At last, with Rome gone i am no longer opposed by a cucked bureaucracy

Idk what you thought you would achieve by nominating someone as impulsive as Zeph Dictator
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05.10.2016 - 12:43
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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05.10.2016 - 12:48
 JF.
Kill myself with honour

Before i die i want to sell all my equites.
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05.10.2016 - 13:07
Γραμμένο από Darth., 05.10.2016 at 12:37

Γραμμένο από Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 12:34

At last, with Rome gone i am no longer opposed by a cucked bureaucracy

Idk what you thought you would achieve by nominating someone as impulsive as Zeph Dictator


It was a worthy gambit, i can't predict expontaneous stupidity. I expected a scipio to defend africa instead of dyng at sea
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05.10.2016 - 13:08
Honorable suicide, after nuking rome.

Gg

Sell equites, idk why I would, but he thought it was a good idea ^^
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05.10.2016 - 13:12
 Witch-Doctor (Επόπτης)
Do not take the cowardly way out, we will give everybody a fair trial.
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05.10.2016 - 15:36
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ho
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05.10.2016 - 17:52
==Turn 24: Phase 1 has begun==
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05.10.2016 - 18:17
 Witch-Doctor (Επόπτης)
Give all to rome treasury, if we're still negative during phase 2, then I sell my equites to donate more.
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05.10.2016 - 18:35
All my treasury to rome. The families of Numetorius, Maximus, and Caetronianus won't get away that easily, you will pay up. Our legionnaires will be arriving shortly at your homes and taking your sons and wives and daughters hostage..
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05.10.2016 - 18:37
All treasury to Rome.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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05.10.2016 - 18:37
Become corrupt

Send all to rome
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05.10.2016 - 18:43
All money to Rome
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ho
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05.10.2016 - 21:11
All to Rome.
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05.10.2016 - 21:14
The illegitimate junta in Rome doesn't have imperium and thus any transaction made using the roman treasury will be considered an act of open thievery. Any member of a "legion" raised post-rebellion is compose of desperadoes and outlaws who as of now are no better than looters and thieves.
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05.10.2016 - 21:23


The 3 headed monster is partitioning the republic among dogs and vultures, they all want to eat the soul of the republic to the bone.
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05.10.2016 - 21:37
Γραμμένο από Aetius, 05.10.2016 at 18:35

All my treasury to rome. The families of Numetorius, Maximus, and Caetronianus won't get away that easily, you will pay up. Our legionnaires will be arriving shortly at your homes and taking your sons and wives and daughters hostage..

Good thing i am already dead
ggnore
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05.10.2016 - 21:39
 Witch-Doctor (Επόπτης)
Γραμμένο από Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 21:23



The 3 headed monster is partitioning the republic among dogs and vultures, they all want to eat the soul of the republic to the bone.


Ok former traitor.
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05.10.2016 - 21:46
Flee to Further Spain I guess.

Surrender to Rome. xa
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05.10.2016 - 21:46
Γραμμένο από Google, 05.10.2016 at 21:37


Good thing i am already dead
ggnore


oooooooooo, spooky ghosts of Maximus and Caetronianus, spooky ghosts from the dead, so spooky
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05.10.2016 - 22:11


k for the other 3, safari and resting lime are caught, zeph escapes.

Due to having the highest influence, Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) is the leader of the Exiled Senate (with dictator powers), he may resign and appoint someone else the leader if he wishes


Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) -- in Africa
Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler) -- in Africa
Lars Pedius (Zenith) -- in Narbonese Gaul
Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) -- in Further Spain
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05.10.2016 - 22:17
I am making the "Antonian Faction"

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)
Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler)
Lars Pedius (Zenith)

are invited.
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05.10.2016 - 22:56
All shekels to the faction treasury of a liberated Rome, the entire Antonine gens will be exterminated along with those who do not submit to the rightful Roman authority
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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05.10.2016 - 23:07
Γραμμένο από Pyrrhus, 05.10.2016 at 22:56

All shekels to the treasury of a liberated Rome, the entire Antonine gens will be exterminated along with those who do not submit to the rightful Roman authority


You should be ashamed;
Rome is disgraced when you are in sight;
Murderous is your nature;
Enemy of the virtuous man you are;
Looting and burning can be seen in your eyes;
Like a dog you are only capable of attack;
Like a dog you should be put down.
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05.10.2016 - 23:52
 Witch-Doctor (Επόπτης)
Since Safari and Resting Lime have been captured, the trial for their lives will begin soon.

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