World 2.0





As we may all know, atWar's current world map is more than a decade old. With all the current developments within the game, it has been the only thing that has not been sufficiently updated enough. The world map is and will be, the most important aspect of the game. The meta and player base revolves around the world map, but as new updates are being rolled out, a newer map is definitely needed in order to not just bring more activity to the game and keep up with the pace of the development, but also to bring something new for all of us to enjoy.

Because of this, Dave has decided to launch the contest for the creation of a new, and possibly the replacement for the current world map. The current world map is more than a decade old and lacks many features, a new world map would create leeway for further development, and would definitely increase activity.

In order to enter this contest, you have to reply "in" in the replies, and submit your map before the deadline.
You may collaborate with multiple mapmakers, though your prize will be split.

Map Requirements:
  • Map must be free from copyright issues.
  • All presets on the current world map should be available in your map.(ie. EU+ and Asia)
  • Must be UN-recognized borders.
  • Must be suitable for current strategies.
  • Must be suitable for competitive games.
  • Must have 2 variants of cities without harming the balance. (extra and non-extra.)
  • Borders must be detailed.
  • The map must be high resolution


The winner(s)' prize pool:
  • 15000 Protocoins


Trophy:
(Credits: Estus)

Deadline: December 31, 2020 (to be extended if required)

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10.10.2020 - 14:00
 Zoe
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10.10.2020 - 14:01
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
I'm Dave and I approve this message
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10.10.2020 - 14:11
Good initiative
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10.10.2020 - 14:12
RisingMars will like this. I would like to participate, but at the same time I have so much other projects to do. This one will demand a huge effort.
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10.10.2020 - 14:13
Nice one get this thing seasonaly and make it sink with clans and duels end so after every season we can have a nice big news/ATN update.
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10.10.2020 - 14:34
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10.10.2020 - 15:01
Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible
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10.10.2020 - 15:05
Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 15:01

Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible

Rare units aren't working too if I recall.
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10.10.2020 - 15:53
 Zoe
Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 15:01

Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible

Obviously you clone. But the background and borders have to be new.
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10.10.2020 - 16:54
Γραμμένο από Zoe, 10.10.2020 at 15:53

Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 15:01

Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible

Obviously you clone. But the background and borders have to be new.

So is it okay that I leave South Africa as is, so that I can have the Lesotho borders since I cannot lake method in HTML5?
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10.10.2020 - 18:22
Do you want a whole new map or just a balanced current map?
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10.10.2020 - 18:30
 Zoe
Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 16:54

Γραμμένο από Zoe, 10.10.2020 at 15:53

Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 15:01

Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible

Obviously you clone. But the background and borders have to be new.

So is it okay that I leave South Africa as is, so that I can have the Lesotho borders since I cannot lake method in HTML5?

The thing is, you don't need to change everything. You just need to improve what we have, make it look more pleasing and viable with the current meta. etc. (and something newer players would enjoy obviously)
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10.10.2020 - 18:35
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
If your backround image (assuming its different) doesn't line up exactly the same, I would think you can adjust the existing borders without having to re-do them all. That way you can preserve special cases like Lesotho.

Of course I've never made a map so I could be completely wrong....
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10.10.2020 - 22:25
15000 Protocoins = 3 lifetime premiums
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11.10.2020 - 01:39
 Rasp
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11.10.2020 - 05:12
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11.10.2020 - 06:42
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11.10.2020 - 10:26
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11.10.2020 - 11:19
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11.10.2020 - 12:11
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11.10.2020 - 13:30
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11.10.2020 - 13:43
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11.10.2020 - 17:54
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11.10.2020 - 19:34
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
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12.10.2020 - 01:15
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12.10.2020 - 03:07
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
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12.10.2020 - 03:56
I think the current World Map theme is really good and comfortable for eyes but you need to add more features and update economies to be realistic, I have many suggestions, like adding presidents, Putin Xi, Erdogan, Trump, add economical projects which increase cash like farms, Africa is poor and no one wants to select it, add cheap units exclusive for Africa like Toyota Technical, add black markets they increase cash etc..
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12.10.2020 - 06:09
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12.10.2020 - 14:37
Γραμμένο από MrPhobos, 10.10.2020 at 18:22

Do you want a whole new map or just a balanced current map?


I also wanna know this.

Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 16:54

Γραμμένο από Zoe, 10.10.2020 at 15:53

Γραμμένο από RisingMars, 10.10.2020 at 15:01

Just wondering what the rules with cloning the world map would be, without cloning the world map it's impossible for us to add general(unless that has been fixed?) and in HTML5 editor you cannot lake method so adding a country like Lesotho which is entirely surrounded by South Africa will be impossible

Obviously you clone. But the background and borders have to be new.

So is it okay that I leave South Africa as is, so that I can have the Lesotho borders since I cannot lake method in HTML5?


Another options would include splitting the country, adding larger rivers like Yellow, Amazon or Nile and making a "C" shape country with a straight border line | at the ending (it looks bad though if the country is huge and it's very noticeable). Or just follow Dave's idea (copy pasta world map, which makes no sense in my eyes and generates some extra work, but whatever fits you...)
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12.10.2020 - 18:24
I'm in. But where are y'all finding world map images big enough to be high quality at the max zoom?
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13.10.2020 - 01:43
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
Γραμμένο από MrPhobos, 10.10.2020 at 18:22

Do you want a whole new map or just a balanced current map?


Either way. Do whatever you think will be best.

Also you don't *have* to clone the existing World Map if you don't want to... that was just a suggestion to make it easier. You could totally start from scratch if you want to. It's up to you.
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13.10.2020 - 01:52
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
Γραμμένο από McHammers1, 12.10.2020 at 18:24

I'm in. But where are y'all finding world map images big enough to be high quality at the max zoom?


Maybe someone else will have some other suggestion, but here's 1 place I think is a good resource:

https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/collection/1484/blue-marble

But really any place you get the image is fine as long as we can legally use it without having to pay royalties.
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14.10.2020 - 08:01
Sir Dave

"The winner(s)' prize pool: 15000 Protocoins"

What's the sense of giving PC to experienced map makers (who are in fact able to create a GOOD map that you wish to exist as World 2.0), while around 90% of these people have lifetime subscription? AND if they didn't have lifetime subscription, then they are forced to spend money to actually make a map (because that's the only way to access the map editor) and as a reward they get 3 or more additional lifetime premiums in PC? Nonsense either way.

I'm not mean, but really, 15.000 PC is a strange type of reward. Please explain further, like how can we use that PC except of purchasing lifetime subscription (because that will unlock everything in general)...

Some suggestions though:
- change reward to SP or just simply add it along
- reduce/remove the 15k amount and you may want to add some forum title or medal along (East Tournaments for example)
- grant access for everyone to map editor until deadline (I suppose that would also produce more maps to choose from)

For moderator dudes: I assume this is connected to the topic, correct me if not, just in case I remove the comment myself
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25.10.2020 - 08:01
Although the initiative and the idea of a new world map can be good theoretically I see no benefits to the community as a whole, aside from perhaps just a new map. On top of that multiple functions that were used to make up the old world map are non-reproducable with the current state of the map editor. It's a pity really, because it will be hard if not impossible to create a superior version to the original this way. I wish the people who signed theirselves up for this task a lot of well needed luck, perhaps you'll surprise us.

As for the reward Daisy pointed out, i'd like to point out the most important reason to have PC as a cartographer is to promote maps, the reward in itself is a little one-sided but certainly not useless. A medal seems fitting? Giving everyone access to the map editor is a less desired idea, for multiple reasons
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25.10.2020 - 10:23
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25.10.2020 - 21:38
 Dave (Διαχειριστής)
Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, 25.10.2020 at 08:01

multiple functions that were used to make up the old world map are non-reproducable with the current state of the map editor


What's missing?
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Σήμερα - 02:30
Γραμμένο από Dave, 25.10.2020 at 21:38

Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, 25.10.2020 at 08:01

multiple functions that were used to make up the old world map are non-reproducable with the current state of the map editor


What's missing?


The editor issues I encountered are:
1) the general unit does not work
2) rare units are not working
3) borders can have problems especially if a nation is split into 2 or more parts, however I didn't try this after the update which fixed the problems in Indonesia resulting from cloning
4) it is not possible to put one nation into another which occurs for Lesotho in South Africa
5) it is not possible to put seas or lakes within a nation as an example are in Kazakhstan and Russia
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Σήμερα - 03:45
 Zoe
Γραμμένο από Eridans, Σήμερα at 02:30

Γραμμένο από Dave, 25.10.2020 at 21:38

Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, 25.10.2020 at 08:01

multiple functions that were used to make up the old world map are non-reproducable with the current state of the map editor


What's missing?


The editor issues I encountered are:
1) the general unit does not work
2) rare units are not working
3) borders can have problems especially if a nation is split into 2 or more parts, however I didn't try this after the update which fixed the problems in Indonesia resulting from cloning
4) it is not possible to put one nation into another which occurs for Lesotho in South Africa
5) it is not possible to put seas or lakes within a nation as an example are in Kazakhstan and Russia

1. Clone the world map. Unselect everything except for the units.
2. Same as 1st step
3. don't clone borders and make your own if that happens. It seems to be fixed though
4. Just split South Africa. You don't need to clone everything just for lesotho
5. It's not as important to put lakes. IE in the current world map, lakes in sweden and russia are just borders drawn inside russia.
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Σήμερα - 06:20
Γραμμένο από Zoe, Σήμερα at 03:45

Γραμμένο από Eridans, Σήμερα at 02:30

Γραμμένο από Dave, 25.10.2020 at 21:38

Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, 25.10.2020 at 08:01

multiple functions that were used to make up the old world map are non-reproducable with the current state of the map editor


What's missing?


The editor issues I encountered are:
1) the general unit does not work
2) rare units are not working
3) borders can have problems especially if a nation is split into 2 or more parts, however I didn't try this after the update which fixed the problems in Indonesia resulting from cloning
4) it is not possible to put one nation into another which occurs for Lesotho in South Africa
5) it is not possible to put seas or lakes within a nation as an example are in Kazakhstan and Russia

1. Clone the world map. Unselect everything except for the units.
2. Same as 1st step
3. don't clone borders and make your own if that happens. It seems to be fixed though
4. Just split South Africa. You don't need to clone everything just for lesotho
5. It's not as important to put lakes. IE in the current world map, lakes in sweden and russia are just borders drawn inside russia.

I have not tried after the last update that solves the cloning problems, but reading from posts of errors on the maps that if you want I can also find the relative links but it will take time the problems are:
1) general unit does not appear at game start for premiums
2) Rare units in the game are never given no matter the odds they have
3) If you want to make a map similar or better than the current one, South Africa should not be divided and Lesotho is within it
4) there are quite large lakes in Kazakhstan and Russia which are large and if not surmountable with land units have a possible strategic value, as above if you have to make a better map it would be good to consider it
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Σήμερα - 07:54
Perhaps they're just details, but these details are critical in deciding whether one map is better than the other. With just so much missing I view this as an almost insurmountable task.

Γραμμένο από Dave, 25.10.2020 at 21:38
What's missing?


I'll make a list with everything that has been missing and forward it to you personally. I would love to hear if there's anything that can be done about those. Talking about that -with Clovis' departure- can we expect any developments with the map editor or is that stalled for now?
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Σήμερα - 08:26
Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, Σήμερα at 07:54

Talking about that -with Clovis' departure- can we expect any developments with the map editor or is that stalled for now?

Guess what, Pliny. Neutral player is back on editor
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Σήμερα - 12:30
Γραμμένο από Estus, Σήμερα at 08:26

Γραμμένο από Professor Pliny, Σήμερα at 07:54

Talking about that -with Clovis' departure- can we expect any developments with the map editor or is that stalled for now?

Guess what, Pliny. Neutral player is back on editor


Ayyy, I noticed. That's one fat step forward
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