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Δημοσιεύθηκε από Waffel, 03.05.2015 - 14:08
Because goblin deleted his thread because he got bullied and didnt wanted to be hated by the community. I decided to make this thread because I can't get more hated than I already am <3

NERF TB! 1 unit tbing 45+ stacks is just ridicilous..


04.05.2015 - 11:33
On a serious note I suggest we make a special game mode without tb and see how it goes and we can always change it back. thing is I don't think its possible but still worth a try.
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04.05.2015 - 11:37
Who is that one who stops army of 45 units? Rambo?

Nerf tb
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04.05.2015 - 11:44
Γραμμένο από minusSeven, 04.05.2015 at 11:33

On a serious note I suggest we make a special game mode without tb and see how it goes and we can always change it back. thing is I don't think its possible but still worth a try.

Would be awesome, but would essentially degrade the game into prediction only instead of having to deal with priority
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05.05.2015 - 11:12
Just delete the fucking tbs its not sense because the units you order to go should go what ever happens unless they are in the way of other enemies approtching

also it have many bugs because some people:besrock/jfreder/solider001/some other noobs could tb with a 1 unit 50 unit but they never get tbed,,,,
i remember once besrock tbed my 30tank with 6 ats by 1marine in duel what the hell is that............
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05.05.2015 - 13:44
Γραμμένο από SyrianDevil, 05.05.2015 at 11:12

Just delete the fucking tbs its not sense because the units you order to go should go what ever happens unless they are in the way of other enemies approtching

also it have many bugs because some people:besrock/jfreder/solider001/some other noobs could tb with a 1 unit 50 unit but they never get tbed,,,,
i remember once besrock tbed my 30tank with 6 ats by 1marine in duel what the hell is that............

Thats horseshit.

But you gota understand this aswell ...removing tb's completely would be catastrophic.

Imagine not being able to destroy any stack at all with your superior stack because opponents stack is moving all the time and there is no blocking to prevent it.

Extremes are always bad.
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05.05.2015 - 14:02
Γραμμένο από Goblin, 05.05.2015 at 13:44

Γραμμένο από SyrianDevil, 05.05.2015 at 11:12

Just delete the fucking tbs its not sense because the units you order to go should go what ever happens unless they are in the way of other enemies approtching

also it have many bugs because some people:besrock/jfreder/solider001/some other noobs could tb with a 1 unit 50 unit but they never get tbed,,,,
i remember once besrock tbed my 30tank with 6 ats by 1marine in duel what the hell is that............

Thats horseshit.

But you gota understand this aswell ...removing tb's completely would be catastrophic.

Imagine not being able to destroy any stack at all with your superior stack because opponents stack is moving all the time and there is no blocking to prevent it.

Extremes are always bad.

well you should send more if you want to tb for 100% chance
also i hate that when i want to get tbed in a city and put some 20 move and still dont get tbed and enemy win by 1at importent city(this happened really in cw)
but when i dont want to get tbedd i get it
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05.05.2015 - 14:49
Tb's already got too much nerfed, leave them be
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05.05.2015 - 15:02
Γραμμένο από blargh, 05.05.2015 at 14:49

Tb's already got too much nerfed, leave them be


Nerf whale hunters
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05.05.2015 - 15:13
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Γραμμένο από Goblin, 05.05.2015 at 13:44

Γραμμένο από SyrianDevil, 05.05.2015 at 11:12

Just delete the fucking tbs its not sense because the units you order to go should go what ever happens unless they are in the way of other enemies approtching

also it have many bugs because some people:besrock/jfreder/solider001/some other noobs could tb with a 1 unit 50 unit but they never get tbed,,,,
i remember once besrock tbed my 30tank with 6 ats by 1marine in duel what the hell is that............

Thats horseshit.

But you gota understand this aswell ...removing tb's completely would be catastrophic.

Imagine not being able to destroy any stack at all with your superior stack because opponents stack is moving all the time and there is no blocking to prevent it.

Extremes are always bad.

Holy shit, i can ;late move my general and 1 tank without the need to worry about it getting kill by an opponenet Huge Army of 100 tanks. I have to agree you are correct on this one. basically all your movement ( early Movement) go fist exept when attacking. This might make The aggresive Strategy much stronger. For example as ra i won't have to worry about my Ra Tanks doomstack getting tb or wipe out by sm bombers. and i know if one of my stack that merge with my larger stack won't be tb so i can still send my Whole army to cap his cities
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05.05.2015 - 16:15
Γραμμένο από RaulPB, 03.05.2015 at 14:16

I won't bully you, instead I'll give you the love you don't want to get from them

Anyway, where's the point for asking to nerf tb when it seems that old players want the old tb system, which was even more op? XD

Old tb was the best system that was the most skill based system there has been, old one is the only system that should be implemented, new one is shit and your idea is awful.
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05.05.2015 - 16:45
Γραμμένο από Goblin, 05.05.2015 at 16:42

Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 16:15

Old tb was the best system that was the most skill based system there has been, old one is the only system that should be implemented, new one is shit and your idea is awful.

Unless you had a previous account to this ...did you really had any contact with the old tb system, because ...its not nuclear fucking physics like some of you try to present it with your nostalgia.

Yes, i had a 2011 account that i forgot the password for. Old tb system had its flaws but was undeniably better than the current or suggested system(s) in this thread
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05.05.2015 - 16:55
Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 16:45

Yes, i had a 2011 account that i forgot the password for. Old tb system had its flaws but was undeniably better than the current or suggested system(s) in this thread

What is suggested ...can you repeat the suggestion?
Old tb system wasn't a mind blowing tactical system ...no matter what you guys say. I played this in 2011 too.
Opinions differ i guess.
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05.05.2015 - 17:19
Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 16:15

Old tb was the best system that was the most skill based system there has been, old one is the only system that should be implemented, new one is shit and your idea is awful.

First of all... huh? What's all this about? XDD

I've never tried the old system so idk which actually requires more skills. I've never talked negatively about it cause I've never tried it! So what's with the hate?? XD I haven't given any idea at all! I'm just saying that it seems absurd to try implement a new system where tb is nerfed while there's still people that want the old tb system to be implemented again. Where's the problem in that?? Pls explain me!
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05.05.2015 - 17:21
Γραμμένο από Goblin, 05.05.2015 at 16:55

Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 16:45

Yes, i had a 2011 account that i forgot the password for. Old tb system had its flaws but was undeniably better than the current or suggested system(s) in this thread

What is suggested ...can you repeat the suggestion?
Old tb system wasn't a mind blowing tactical system ...no matter what you guys say. I played this in 2011 too.
Opinions differ i guess.

The point i made first of all is that a new more nerfed version of turn blocking would be a ludicrous idea as it was already made less skill based and tactical within the game, the only change that should be made to turn blocking is the revival of the old system or one more mathematically based while sticking true to the old system
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05.05.2015 - 17:30
Γραμμένο από RaulPB, 05.05.2015 at 17:19

Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 16:15

Old tb was the best system that was the most skill based system there has been, old one is the only system that should be implemented, new one is shit and your idea is awful.

First of all... huh? What's all this about? XDD

I've never tried the old system so idk which actually requires more skills. I've never talked negatively about it cause I've never tried it! So what's with the hate?? XD I haven't given any idea at all! I'm just saying that it seems absurd to try implement a new system where tb is nerfed while there's still people that want the old tb system to be implemented again. Where's the problem in that?? Pls explain me!

Waffel wants to nerf tb even more so. The only reason the old system was so hated because no one knew the new system would be even worse, the old system did not even have that many haters, i feel like it was more of a vocal minority, like all the 3v3 plebs who voice their opinions as loudly as possible as always. And thats what im also implying, a new nerfed system would be the worst possible solution to a non existent problem of the turn block system and if there is to be any changes, the best solution would be what i mentioned in my post above (in my opinion anyway)
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05.05.2015 - 17:38
Old tb system - no ...there is no more flower power even and 1 unit blocking stacks is originally retarded

New system based on minimal percentage needed for tb chance to roll - Yes

No more people getting 1 unit lucky wins
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05.05.2015 - 18:07
Γραμμένο από Goblin, 05.05.2015 at 17:38

Old tb system - no ...there is no more flower power even and 1 unit blocking stacks is originally retarded

New system based on minimal percentage needed for tb chance to roll - Yes

No more people getting 1 unit lucky wins

Realism wise, it makes perfect sense
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05.05.2015 - 18:41
Γραμμένο από Morgan The Brit, 05.05.2015 at 17:30

Waffel wants to nerf tb even more so. The only reason the old system was so hated because no one knew the new system would be even worse, the old system did not even have that many haters, i feel like it was more of a vocal minority, like all the 3v3 plebs who voice their opinions as loudly as possible as always. And thats what im also implying, a new nerfed system would be the worst possible solution to a non existent problem of the turn block system and if there is to be any changes, the best solution would be what i mentioned in my post above (in my opinion anyway)

I personally don't support much change to the current tb system. A nerf would make it useless while going back to the old tb system seems too extreme to me... an average tb system like the current one is good enough for me, not extremely powerful tbs nor no tbs at all. I think it's fair enough and also fun (even if sometimes you gotta suffer from it XD)
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05.05.2015 - 19:20
Guys, don't forget how sparta tb persia with just 3 units
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05.05.2015 - 19:26
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You could just make it so 1 unit can tb 10 units max or something like that.

If a 30 unit stack gets tbed by 1 unit, then the other 20 still go on with their move
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05.05.2015 - 21:46
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Γραμμένο από Witch-Doctor, 05.05.2015 at 19:26

You could just make it so 1 unit can tb 10 units max or something like that.

If a 30 unit stack gets tbed by 1 unit, then the other 20 still go on with their move
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05.05.2015 - 23:42
Γραμμένο από Kromn, 05.05.2015 at 21:46

Γραμμένο από Witch-Doctor, 05.05.2015 at 19:26

You could just make it so 1 unit can tb 10 units max or something like that.

If a 30 unit stack gets tbed by 1 unit, then the other 20 still go on with their move


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06.05.2015 - 00:31
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06.05.2015 - 01:51
Γραμμένο από Guest, 06.05.2015 at 00:31

TB as spectator


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06.05.2015 - 02:21
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Γραμμένο από Cthulhu, 05.05.2015 at 19:20

Guys, don't forget how sparta tb persia with just 3 units

and how luftwaffe tb-ed british/french in belgium
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06.05.2015 - 02:27
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Γραμμένο από SyrianDevil, 06.05.2015 at 01:51

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I am not a hacker, like you noob
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06.05.2015 - 03:20
Maybe just make this into another game option?

Standard: What we have now. Turn-block chance depends on turn order and stack size.
Classic: What we used to have. Turn-block chance depends only on turn order.

Human Wave: Turn-block chance depends only on stack size.
Superior Firepower: Turn-block chance depends on the range of the slowest unit in a move.
Lightning Warfare: Turn-block chance is always zero.
Grand Battle: Turn-block chance is always one (i.e. 100%).
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06.05.2015 - 03:45
Γραμμένο από Cthulhu, 05.05.2015 at 19:20

Guys, don't forget how sparta tb persia with just 3 unitso the ground

in a movie ...in reality greeks had thousands of troops in good strategic position, was defending not attacking, they lost and xerxes burned athens to the ground.
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06.05.2015 - 06:02
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I am not a hacker, like you noob

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16578&board_page=2
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06.05.2015 - 06:39
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I am not a hacker, like you noob

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16578&board_page=2
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